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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by mattkysor</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>mattkysor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, 

Yes I&#039;m quite aware of churches adopting neighborhoods and this is a GREAT approach. While it could be late to the game, if we stick to it, then surely we can be a global force. In Virginia I helped start a nonprofit contingency that now has the blessing of the City Council, the Mayor&#039;s office, and the City Police; all in the most violent neighborhood in the area. It&#039;s about empowering people and giving them access &amp; education to where they wouldn&#039;t have had it previously. 

And frankly, I don&#039;t mind the government assisting in that process so long as there is oversight &amp; accountability until the church as a whole steps up to the plate. The next issue becomes to what degree and there&#039;s our argument. We like infrastructure, certain bureaucracy, education (didn&#039;t know that education at one time wasn&#039;t publically funded WOW), libraries, military. These are all social programs &amp; services that we all agree on. So it&#039;s not as if we don&#039;t believe in them... 

We need to encourage oversight from our government to avoid corruption, but we must also embrace goals that are good in spirit - that is, those that truly help our neighbors....and the Church can step up to....and I believe she is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, </p>
<p>Yes I&#8217;m quite aware of churches adopting neighborhoods and this is a GREAT approach. While it could be late to the game, if we stick to it, then surely we can be a global force. In Virginia I helped start a nonprofit contingency that now has the blessing of the City Council, the Mayor&#8217;s office, and the City Police; all in the most violent neighborhood in the area. It&#8217;s about empowering people and giving them access &amp; education to where they wouldn&#8217;t have had it previously. </p>
<p>And frankly, I don&#8217;t mind the government assisting in that process so long as there is oversight &amp; accountability until the church as a whole steps up to the plate. The next issue becomes to what degree and there&#8217;s our argument. We like infrastructure, certain bureaucracy, education (didn&#8217;t know that education at one time wasn&#8217;t publically funded WOW), libraries, military. These are all social programs &amp; services that we all agree on. So it&#8217;s not as if we don&#8217;t believe in them&#8230; </p>
<p>We need to encourage oversight from our government to avoid corruption, but we must also embrace goals that are good in spirit &#8211; that is, those that truly help our neighbors&#8230;.and the Church can step up to&#8230;.and I believe she is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by Keith</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pretty much agree with what you&#039;re saying (although I still think you&#039;re a North Korean communist spy).

So the question really is about the approach.  Do we approach this on a global scale, expand government even more so and give them power to redistribute wealth, or do we start small and focus on our community.  

One program that has yielded great results this year is the adopt-a-block that many area churches have been involved with.  I assume you&#039;re familiar?  We&#039;ve taken on the trailer park behind the lion&#039;s den, and began building relationships as well as helping them out with basic needs -- wheel chair ramps, book bags and school supplies, food, even free hair cuts from my wife.  All of these things we do without any attempts to evangelize, but we&#039;ve gained some church members and new believers anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pretty much agree with what you&#8217;re saying (although I still think you&#8217;re a North Korean communist spy).</p>
<p>So the question really is about the approach.  Do we approach this on a global scale, expand government even more so and give them power to redistribute wealth, or do we start small and focus on our community.  </p>
<p>One program that has yielded great results this year is the adopt-a-block that many area churches have been involved with.  I assume you&#8217;re familiar?  We&#8217;ve taken on the trailer park behind the lion&#8217;s den, and began building relationships as well as helping them out with basic needs &#8212; wheel chair ramps, book bags and school supplies, food, even free hair cuts from my wife.  All of these things we do without any attempts to evangelize, but we&#8217;ve gained some church members and new believers anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by mattkysor</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>mattkysor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thoroughly enjoying the conversation from both sides of this argument. Let me preface by stating that I am not a strong advocate of Socialism, which is a form of government. What I am a fan of is the intentions of people who hold those views, or better said, people who care for other people. A lot of times we, as Christians think that liberals or Socialists are trying to ruin this great country - they are not, they are trying to help thy brothers. 

The differences come in defining who are brothers are. Conservatives &amp; Christians tend to think that brothers can be of the Christian circle or those who need help but only those who help themselves. 

Liberals might expand that definition in terms of who needs help. Working in a &quot;social&quot; program I get to see the good and the bad. Some people really need help, they work hard, but daggone-it, they&#039;re poor and will always be poor unless someone can remove a barrier. And since the Christian community doesn&#039;t do enough to remove those barriers, then yes, government programs can help those people. 

Sides disagree on how to help those people as well and to what extent. As everyone has perfectly alluded to, if the Christian community would enhance their skills in this area, then certainly we wouldn&#039;t have to rely on government assistance, as I trust the Christian community moreso than government...that said I do not completely distrust government even though it can corrupt, so too can Christian institutions as evident in its history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thoroughly enjoying the conversation from both sides of this argument. Let me preface by stating that I am not a strong advocate of Socialism, which is a form of government. What I am a fan of is the intentions of people who hold those views, or better said, people who care for other people. A lot of times we, as Christians think that liberals or Socialists are trying to ruin this great country &#8211; they are not, they are trying to help thy brothers. </p>
<p>The differences come in defining who are brothers are. Conservatives &amp; Christians tend to think that brothers can be of the Christian circle or those who need help but only those who help themselves. </p>
<p>Liberals might expand that definition in terms of who needs help. Working in a &#8220;social&#8221; program I get to see the good and the bad. Some people really need help, they work hard, but daggone-it, they&#8217;re poor and will always be poor unless someone can remove a barrier. And since the Christian community doesn&#8217;t do enough to remove those barriers, then yes, government programs can help those people. </p>
<p>Sides disagree on how to help those people as well and to what extent. As everyone has perfectly alluded to, if the Christian community would enhance their skills in this area, then certainly we wouldn&#8217;t have to rely on government assistance, as I trust the Christian community moreso than government&#8230;that said I do not completely distrust government even though it can corrupt, so too can Christian institutions as evident in its history.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by regenerationblog</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>regenerationblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with socialism is that the government controls it&#039;s fate.  Socialism has never worked to the degree it was supposed to. The Health General of Canada recently said that they needed a major overhaul on their health system (socialistic form of government) lets be honest Europe doesn&#039;t help their impoverished people with their socialistic form of government.  The whole UK has the highest percent of poverty in the &quot;Modern Western World&quot;. It has never achieved what it was supposed to.The UK (which is mostly governed by a socialistic form of government) boasts the worlds largest poverty rate.  And Germany(Same form of government as UK) , who after the war adopted more of a socialistic form of government recovered very quickly and now have one of the worlds largest economies. However, they also since 2005 boast the largest number of unemployment in their nations history. It hasn&#039;t worked yet so why should it in the US? We should not confuse socialism for Christ&#039;s salvation of the economy. If we as Christians do what we are suppose to that will be a big enough change to make a serious impact. We don&#039;y have to wait for a governmental change to make us act more christlike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with socialism is that the government controls it&#8217;s fate.  Socialism has never worked to the degree it was supposed to. The Health General of Canada recently said that they needed a major overhaul on their health system (socialistic form of government) lets be honest Europe doesn&#8217;t help their impoverished people with their socialistic form of government.  The whole UK has the highest percent of poverty in the &#8220;Modern Western World&#8221;. It has never achieved what it was supposed to.The UK (which is mostly governed by a socialistic form of government) boasts the worlds largest poverty rate.  And Germany(Same form of government as UK) , who after the war adopted more of a socialistic form of government recovered very quickly and now have one of the worlds largest economies. However, they also since 2005 boast the largest number of unemployment in their nations history. It hasn&#8217;t worked yet so why should it in the US? We should not confuse socialism for Christ&#8217;s salvation of the economy. If we as Christians do what we are suppose to that will be a big enough change to make a serious impact. We don&#8217;y have to wait for a governmental change to make us act more christlike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by josh</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother, I&#039;m with you on this one.  The only concern I have is that we&#039;ve left our individual responsibility in the hands of a, broken in many ways, government.  The reality is, there would be no need for government mandated &quot;social&quot; policies if the Church, would be the church... If we would truly take to heart, &quot;Loving my neighbor as I would myself,&quot; the need for &quot;forcing&quot; people to do the right thing, wouldn&#039;t be necessary.  However, due to the fact that we as christians are often broken ourselves, and God still chooses to use us, I&#039;m left with the final thought.  Until we start doing what were suppose to be doing, I 100% support the use of government funding to get it done.  The world would be a better place if we were all a little more social, and a little less selfish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother, I&#8217;m with you on this one.  The only concern I have is that we&#8217;ve left our individual responsibility in the hands of a, broken in many ways, government.  The reality is, there would be no need for government mandated &#8220;social&#8221; policies if the Church, would be the church&#8230; If we would truly take to heart, &#8220;Loving my neighbor as I would myself,&#8221; the need for &#8220;forcing&#8221; people to do the right thing, wouldn&#8217;t be necessary.  However, due to the fact that we as christians are often broken ourselves, and God still chooses to use us, I&#8217;m left with the final thought.  Until we start doing what were suppose to be doing, I 100% support the use of government funding to get it done.  The world would be a better place if we were all a little more social, and a little less selfish.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by Keith</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helping the poor = great idea.  I don&#039;t do it enough, and I wish everyone would do so more than they do.  Being forced to help the poor = bondage, not freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helping the poor = great idea.  I don&#8217;t do it enough, and I wish everyone would do so more than they do.  Being forced to help the poor = bondage, not freedom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on why i am a socialist by mattkysor</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/why-i-am-a-socialist/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>mattkysor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear brother in Christ, 
As a student in political science, government, and history, I can speak on different political philosophies, and while I agree there are differences, the point is, in nature, it&#039;s about watching out for your brother. Whether the government does it and we advocate it, or we as Christians do it, both are subject to corruption and good, but provide a redistribution. I won&#039;t agree to all socialism but at the core, helping those around me is a good aim. Socialist programs, ie medicare, wia, etc, socialist in nature, provide services that are helping thy brother. Thanks for your response</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear brother in Christ,<br />
As a student in political science, government, and history, I can speak on different political philosophies, and while I agree there are differences, the point is, in nature, it&#8217;s about watching out for your brother. Whether the government does it and we advocate it, or we as Christians do it, both are subject to corruption and good, but provide a redistribution. I won&#8217;t agree to all socialism but at the core, helping those around me is a good aim. Socialist programs, ie medicare, wia, etc, socialist in nature, provide services that are helping thy brother. Thanks for your response</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by rikkitick</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/about/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>rikkitick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian communalism is a far cry from socialism.  Socialism is a form of statism and really antithetical to Christianity.  Rendering unto Caesar is all well and good and dictated biblically, but submitting to a socialist government is a whole other thing.  Consider researching what Socialism really is all about before equating it with dictates of Scripture.  A brother in Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian communalism is a far cry from socialism.  Socialism is a form of statism and really antithetical to Christianity.  Rendering unto Caesar is all well and good and dictated biblically, but submitting to a socialist government is a whole other thing.  Consider researching what Socialism really is all about before equating it with dictates of Scripture.  A brother in Christ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on protection theology by Keith</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/protection-theology/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on this one... and as you know, I&#039;ve struggled with how far &quot;in&quot; the world to go without being &quot;of&quot; the world.  I think it&#039;s a personal choice that needs to be made in wisdom and knowing your own weaknesses.  Obviously a former alcoholic doesn&#039;t go to a bar to witness.

The &quot;bubble&quot; as you said can be good at times, and I know I&#039;ve needed it at times.  Other times it just becomes a security blanket or a religious gesture and we run the risk of never impacting anyone or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on this one&#8230; and as you know, I&#8217;ve struggled with how far &#8220;in&#8221; the world to go without being &#8220;of&#8221; the world.  I think it&#8217;s a personal choice that needs to be made in wisdom and knowing your own weaknesses.  Obviously a former alcoholic doesn&#8217;t go to a bar to witness.</p>
<p>The &#8220;bubble&#8221; as you said can be good at times, and I know I&#8217;ve needed it at times.  Other times it just becomes a security blanket or a religious gesture and we run the risk of never impacting anyone or anything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on protection theology by Ricky</title>
		<link>http://mattkysor.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/protection-theology/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completly agree....It&#039;s almost as though it becomes an us vs. them type of thing...don&#039;t get me wrong Jesus clearly differentiated between His elect (they are not of the world) but he clearly left them in the world to start something special...I always wander what is most important about church on sundays? is it for evangelism? or for discipleship? i guess whatever the church feels is most important is what will happen...Bill Hybels will probably preach evangelism while John Macarthur will preach for a Christian audience in a discipling way...but then again this is also a classic example of Christians not being on the same page to accomplish a common goal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completly agree&#8230;.It&#8217;s almost as though it becomes an us vs. them type of thing&#8230;don&#8217;t get me wrong Jesus clearly differentiated between His elect (they are not of the world) but he clearly left them in the world to start something special&#8230;I always wander what is most important about church on sundays? is it for evangelism? or for discipleship? i guess whatever the church feels is most important is what will happen&#8230;Bill Hybels will probably preach evangelism while John Macarthur will preach for a Christian audience in a discipling way&#8230;but then again this is also a classic example of Christians not being on the same page to accomplish a common goal&#8230;</p>
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